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		<title>By: Beetle Eyes &#187; Time Zips By</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2009/03/11/the-art-of-not-accepting-no-for-an-answer/#comment-92784</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Art of Not Accepting No For An Answer - A must read for all of us meek and mild types. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: March 22, 2009 Link Payday &#124; Uncommon Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>March 22, 2009 Link Payday &#124; Uncommon Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Twice blogs about The Art of Not Accepting No For an Answer when she looks at ways to assert yourself. Does it always work? No, but there are many times that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kentuckyliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kentuckyliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to be all over my insurance company like a dog with a bone, to get them to pay my cancer treatment bills...now at about 3/4 mill retail billed, total.

I developed a system of tracking claims on a spreadsheet, noting the pending or denied claims, pulling those EOB statements, and camping out on the phone.  

When the CSR would answer, they&#039;d inevitably ask the standard polite, &quot;How are you today?&quot;  I used that as an opportunity to actually answer the question, what I was going through as a cancer patient, with a good attitude and a fighting spirit, to elicit their sympathy.  I wouldn&#039;t let them cop a bureaucratic attitude with me.

I kept careful notes on each EOB statement on what the problem was and what needed to be done to fix it, and when I should expect results and check the situation online/call back.  I marked my Yahoo calendar and set the reminders so I wouldn&#039;t forget.

It was really frustrating at first, but they finally figured out that they had the contract loaded wrong (my employer switched to them the day before I started this whole bout of cancer).  Then things got a lot easier, and there&#039;s some denials but it&#039;s usually laziness about connecting the physician referral to the submitted claim.  It&#039;s a lot easier to break the logjam.

I assumed good will, but could play hardball if I had to.  I mastered &quot;stacking the deck&quot;--I&#039;d call from the hospital while receiving treatment.  The nurses knew I was doing this and why.  I&#039;d have the CSR on the line at the time the nurse would shove the needle into my Mediport and I&#039;d let out a yelp of pain.  Which I didn&#039;t normally do but that&#039;s what&#039;s needed on a phone call.  Then I&#039;d explain, Oh sorry, that was the nurse shoving the needle into the Mediport in my chest to start the IV of chemo drugs.  LOL!!!!  

I&#039;d tell them things like it was mean to kick a cancer patient when she&#039;s down.  I didn&#039;t have any family nearby to monitor my bills and insurance statements and had to do it all myself...while chemobrained and ill.  I&#039;d lay it on thick.

My docs love me because I have a good attitude about treatment and always would come in with a joke, and I treated the nurses and receptionists well, too.  Honestly, I think they&#039;d do anything for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to be all over my insurance company like a dog with a bone, to get them to pay my cancer treatment bills&#8230;now at about 3/4 mill retail billed, total.</p>
<p>I developed a system of tracking claims on a spreadsheet, noting the pending or denied claims, pulling those EOB statements, and camping out on the phone.  </p>
<p>When the CSR would answer, they&#8217;d inevitably ask the standard polite, &#8220;How are you today?&#8221;  I used that as an opportunity to actually answer the question, what I was going through as a cancer patient, with a good attitude and a fighting spirit, to elicit their sympathy.  I wouldn&#8217;t let them cop a bureaucratic attitude with me.</p>
<p>I kept careful notes on each EOB statement on what the problem was and what needed to be done to fix it, and when I should expect results and check the situation online/call back.  I marked my Yahoo calendar and set the reminders so I wouldn&#8217;t forget.</p>
<p>It was really frustrating at first, but they finally figured out that they had the contract loaded wrong (my employer switched to them the day before I started this whole bout of cancer).  Then things got a lot easier, and there&#8217;s some denials but it&#8217;s usually laziness about connecting the physician referral to the submitted claim.  It&#8217;s a lot easier to break the logjam.</p>
<p>I assumed good will, but could play hardball if I had to.  I mastered &#8220;stacking the deck&#8221;&#8211;I&#8217;d call from the hospital while receiving treatment.  The nurses knew I was doing this and why.  I&#8217;d have the CSR on the line at the time the nurse would shove the needle into my Mediport and I&#8217;d let out a yelp of pain.  Which I didn&#8217;t normally do but that&#8217;s what&#8217;s needed on a phone call.  Then I&#8217;d explain, Oh sorry, that was the nurse shoving the needle into the Mediport in my chest to start the IV of chemo drugs.  LOL!!!!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d tell them things like it was mean to kick a cancer patient when she&#8217;s down.  I didn&#8217;t have any family nearby to monitor my bills and insurance statements and had to do it all myself&#8230;while chemobrained and ill.  I&#8217;d lay it on thick.</p>
<p>My docs love me because I have a good attitude about treatment and always would come in with a joke, and I treated the nurses and receptionists well, too.  Honestly, I think they&#8217;d do anything for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tha Music Blogging Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tha Music Blogging Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously need to learn how to do this.
My mom can do it so easily, and wins almost all of the time.
I on the other hand, ehh sorta stuck with this one.
I&#039;ll learn in time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously need to learn how to do this.<br />
My mom can do it so easily, and wins almost all of the time.<br />
I on the other hand, ehh sorta stuck with this one.<br />
I&#8217;ll learn in time!</p>
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		<title>By: Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever thought of renting out your assertiveness? :-D

Seriously: I personally would hire someone like you to run interference with me in predicaments like this. I just hate that kind of thing and don&#039;t do well at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever thought of renting out your assertiveness? <img src='http://www.paidtwice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously: I personally would hire someone like you to run interference with me in predicaments like this. I just hate that kind of thing and don&#8217;t do well at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Saver in the City&#187; Saver in the City&#8217;s five for Friday</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2009/03/11/the-art-of-not-accepting-no-for-an-answer/#comment-87694</link>
		<dc:creator>Saver in the City&#187; Saver in the City&#8217;s five for Friday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] means no&#8230;except when it doesn&#8217;t. Learn how to increase your chances of turning a no into a yes in this post by I&#8217;ve Paid for This Twice [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] means no&#8230;except when it doesn&#8217;t. Learn how to increase your chances of turning a no into a yes in this post by I&#8217;ve Paid for This Twice [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you!!  I live in an area where doctor&#039;s are in short supply and it&#039;s always hard to get an appointment.  If you get sick, you have to either sit in the doctor&#039;s office for hours or go to the emergency room.  You are right about getting them on your side.  I have had them call me back when a cancellation came in.  It pays to be persistent AND pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you!!  I live in an area where doctor&#8217;s are in short supply and it&#8217;s always hard to get an appointment.  If you get sick, you have to either sit in the doctor&#8217;s office for hours or go to the emergency room.  You are right about getting them on your side.  I have had them call me back when a cancellation came in.  It pays to be persistent AND pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan at TheDebtDance.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan at TheDebtDance.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for this posting.
It&#039;s really tough to lose a parent and try to adjust to life without him or her.

I really loved the part in your post that states we should expect a yes. For so long now I have realized that you get what you expect...and it&#039;s true. Love your site,I&#039;ll be back...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this posting.<br />
It&#8217;s really tough to lose a parent and try to adjust to life without him or her.</p>
<p>I really loved the part in your post that states we should expect a yes. For so long now I have realized that you get what you expect&#8230;and it&#8217;s true. Love your site,I&#8217;ll be back&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Julie D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff!  I had a similar experience with my insurance company a year ago.  I had called 3 different times in advance to make certain my procedure would be covered and I would only have to pay my copay.  The bill came later and they were trying to charge me $2,600 more than my $25 copay.  The first time I called I was tired and was trying to fit the call in real quick so I just got off the phone when I wasn&#039;t getting anywhere.  The second time, I made sure I was going into this without paying one dime more than I had previously been told several times.  It took an hour and a half and I finally got through to the representative when I said, &quot;This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.&quot;  I think it may have been the first time she had heard that in her life.  Anyway, she eventually determined I was correct and remitted payment before the end of business that same day.  What would have happened if I hadn&#039;t called back?  You have to be your own advocate and not feel badly about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff!  I had a similar experience with my insurance company a year ago.  I had called 3 different times in advance to make certain my procedure would be covered and I would only have to pay my copay.  The bill came later and they were trying to charge me $2,600 more than my $25 copay.  The first time I called I was tired and was trying to fit the call in real quick so I just got off the phone when I wasn&#8217;t getting anywhere.  The second time, I made sure I was going into this without paying one dime more than I had previously been told several times.  It took an hour and a half and I finally got through to the representative when I said, &#8220;This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.&#8221;  I think it may have been the first time she had heard that in her life.  Anyway, she eventually determined I was correct and remitted payment before the end of business that same day.  What would have happened if I hadn&#8217;t called back?  You have to be your own advocate and not feel badly about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a well written and excellent post. Your step by step guide will help anyone who needs to take the next step. You should be be proud of yourself, if I was your Mon I would want you fighting my corner, Margaret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a well written and excellent post. Your step by step guide will help anyone who needs to take the next step. You should be be proud of yourself, if I was your Mon I would want you fighting my corner, Margaret</p>
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