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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2007/11/20/why-cant-i-trust-our-programmable-thermostat/#comment-9066</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not true that turning it way down and then heating the whole house back up costs more money.  There are many studies to this effect.

We keep ours at 55 all the time except from 7-9 pm.  We are even still hot at night, and no one is home during the day, so it works for us.  We have a small bathroom heater to run for 30 minutes in the morning.

I have the same paranoia when I wake up and the furnace is running, like this morning, because that means it was below 55 in the house!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not true that turning it way down and then heating the whole house back up costs more money.  There are many studies to this effect.</p>
<p>We keep ours at 55 all the time except from 7-9 pm.  We are even still hot at night, and no one is home during the day, so it works for us.  We have a small bathroom heater to run for 30 minutes in the morning.</p>
<p>I have the same paranoia when I wake up and the furnace is running, like this morning, because that means it was below 55 in the house!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carnival of Family Life is at On The Horizon and my post about not trusting my programmable thermostat was included (as well as my post at Hug Twice about how its hard to watch your child be bullied). I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carnival of Family Life is at On The Horizon and my post about not trusting my programmable thermostat was included (as well as my post at Hug Twice about how its hard to watch your child be bullied). I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to second NAwlinsKat&#039;s mention of a ceramic heater/space heater.  That way you&#039;re not heating any space you&#039;re not already in.  I use one in my office, since I find I can&#039;t work as well if I&#039;m cold or wearing a huge thick coat. Carrying one around with you to wherever you&#039;re going to be for a while is also a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to second NAwlinsKat&#8217;s mention of a ceramic heater/space heater.  That way you&#8217;re not heating any space you&#8217;re not already in.  I use one in my office, since I find I can&#8217;t work as well if I&#8217;m cold or wearing a huge thick coat. Carrying one around with you to wherever you&#8217;re going to be for a while is also a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Family Life &#124; On the Horizon</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2007/11/20/why-cant-i-trust-our-programmable-thermostat/#comment-6210</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] presents Why Can’t I Trust Our Programmable Thermostat? at I&#8217;ve Paid For This Twice Already . . . remarking, &#8220;Sometimes I am very silly about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hopeful Spirit</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2007/11/20/why-cant-i-trust-our-programmable-thermostat/#comment-6207</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopeful Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the &quot;thermostat wars.&quot;  We were fighting about it just this morning as I was freezing and my husband was saying &quot;Isn&#039;t it hot in here?&quot;

Thanks for contributing this post to this week’s Carnival of Family Life which I am hosting! It is a valuable addition to the Carnival because many folks will relate.

Have you considered hosting the Carnival one week?

Blessings to you and yours this Thanksgiving weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the &#8220;thermostat wars.&#8221;  We were fighting about it just this morning as I was freezing and my husband was saying &#8220;Isn&#8217;t it hot in here?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for contributing this post to this week’s Carnival of Family Life which I am hosting! It is a valuable addition to the Carnival because many folks will relate.</p>
<p>Have you considered hosting the Carnival one week?</p>
<p>Blessings to you and yours this Thanksgiving weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: NAwlinsKat</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2007/11/20/why-cant-i-trust-our-programmable-thermostat/#comment-6063</link>
		<dc:creator>NAwlinsKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, paidtwice! You sound like me, except I keep it even colder in the house, mostly because the furnace makes me ill. I hate artificial heat, and I&#039;d rather put on more clothes than have that dry heat running. That&#039;s one time that hot flashes help. 

Boomie&#039;s right; if you turn the temp down, everything in the house cools to the lower temp....say 58, or wherever you put it. So you&#039;re not only having to raise the ambient air temp, but also the temp of the objects in the house...ie, your furniture, tile, sheetrock, etc. This takes much longer than just raising air temperature.

Re your programmable thermostat: most of them have a swing of about 3 degrees....you need to play around with yours to find out just how big the swing is. I&#039;ve had them up to 5 degrees. The swing is the variation off of what  you&#039;ve set it at--so if you keep your furnace set on 64, the temp could vary in your house by a range of several degrees, with 64 in the middle. So....it might warm to more than 64, but not kick on till it was well below that. It doesn&#039;t hold at a constant 64.

Rather than shooting for a particular temperature, I try to monitor how many times per hour the furnace kicks on, and for how long it runs each time. On a really cold day(by my south Louisiana standards, and with a serious lack of insulation) the furnace might kick on as often as every 10 minutes. I try to hold it to once or twice an  hour; if I&#039;m really cold, say, in the bathroom, or while working at my desk, I use a small ceramic heater to warm just the area I&#039;m in. I&#039;ve found that&#039;s far cheaper than heating the whole house, and doesn&#039;t dry my skin nearly as badly, either.

I slowly edged the heat in our house down; I keep it at about 62 to maaaaaybe 64 during the day, if it&#039;s really cold out, and turn it down to about 57 or 58 at night, because I like it flat out cold in the house to sleep. (My  husband starts looking for snow when the temps fall below 70, though) At 70 in the house, I&#039;d have a constant migraine...but when my parents come over, I do boost the temp for them. Right now, it&#039;s 42 out and I have my bedroom window cracked open a bit...and we usually have a door wide open, as well.

Stay warm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, paidtwice! You sound like me, except I keep it even colder in the house, mostly because the furnace makes me ill. I hate artificial heat, and I&#8217;d rather put on more clothes than have that dry heat running. That&#8217;s one time that hot flashes help. </p>
<p>Boomie&#8217;s right; if you turn the temp down, everything in the house cools to the lower temp&#8230;.say 58, or wherever you put it. So you&#8217;re not only having to raise the ambient air temp, but also the temp of the objects in the house&#8230;ie, your furniture, tile, sheetrock, etc. This takes much longer than just raising air temperature.</p>
<p>Re your programmable thermostat: most of them have a swing of about 3 degrees&#8230;.you need to play around with yours to find out just how big the swing is. I&#8217;ve had them up to 5 degrees. The swing is the variation off of what  you&#8217;ve set it at&#8211;so if you keep your furnace set on 64, the temp could vary in your house by a range of several degrees, with 64 in the middle. So&#8230;.it might warm to more than 64, but not kick on till it was well below that. It doesn&#8217;t hold at a constant 64.</p>
<p>Rather than shooting for a particular temperature, I try to monitor how many times per hour the furnace kicks on, and for how long it runs each time. On a really cold day(by my south Louisiana standards, and with a serious lack of insulation) the furnace might kick on as often as every 10 minutes. I try to hold it to once or twice an  hour; if I&#8217;m really cold, say, in the bathroom, or while working at my desk, I use a small ceramic heater to warm just the area I&#8217;m in. I&#8217;ve found that&#8217;s far cheaper than heating the whole house, and doesn&#8217;t dry my skin nearly as badly, either.</p>
<p>I slowly edged the heat in our house down; I keep it at about 62 to maaaaaybe 64 during the day, if it&#8217;s really cold out, and turn it down to about 57 or 58 at night, because I like it flat out cold in the house to sleep. (My  husband starts looking for snow when the temps fall below 70, though) At 70 in the house, I&#8217;d have a constant migraine&#8230;but when my parents come over, I do boost the temp for them. Right now, it&#8217;s 42 out and I have my bedroom window cracked open a bit&#8230;and we usually have a door wide open, as well.</p>
<p>Stay warm!</p>
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		<title>By: paidtwice</title>
		<link>http://www.paidtwice.com/2007/11/20/why-cant-i-trust-our-programmable-thermostat/#comment-5983</link>
		<dc:creator>paidtwice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn... don&#039;t tell the hubby he is right!  lol  But that does make sense now that you&#039;ve explained it that way mjmcinto.  thanks!

Brandon I am all about the sacrifice now to have a better tomorrow... I think.  Until I get chilly.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn&#8230; don&#8217;t tell the hubby he is right!  lol  But that does make sense now that you&#8217;ve explained it that way mjmcinto.  thanks!</p>
<p>Brandon I am all about the sacrifice now to have a better tomorrow&#8230; I think.  Until I get chilly.  <img src='http://www.paidtwice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mjmcinto</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjmcinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your hubby is probably right (to a certain extent) about messing up the programs by turning it on, and off, etc.  If your thermostat is like the ones I&#039;ve had, it &quot;learns&quot;.  Say you want it set to be 66 at 4PM, it will run for several days, and &quot;learn&quot; at what time it needs to turn on and start warming (or cooling) the house to bring it to 66 at 4PM.  So by manually changing the temp etc, you are interfering w/this &quot;learning&quot; process.  other than that, everything should work, no matter what you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your hubby is probably right (to a certain extent) about messing up the programs by turning it on, and off, etc.  If your thermostat is like the ones I&#8217;ve had, it &#8220;learns&#8221;.  Say you want it set to be 66 at 4PM, it will run for several days, and &#8220;learn&#8221; at what time it needs to turn on and start warming (or cooling) the house to bring it to 66 at 4PM.  So by manually changing the temp etc, you are interfering w/this &#8220;learning&#8221; process.  other than that, everything should work, no matter what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a wee bit ;)

I applaud your effort, but I would never want the temperature only one degree above unbearably cold. Of course, I *hate* being cold. From the same point, I can put up with heat easily.

Of course my wife is the opposite. She hates being hot and does not mind being chilly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a wee bit <img src='http://www.paidtwice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I applaud your effort, but I would never want the temperature only one degree above unbearably cold. Of course, I *hate* being cold. From the same point, I can put up with heat easily.</p>
<p>Of course my wife is the opposite. She hates being hot and does not mind being chilly.</p>
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		<title>By: paidtwice</title>
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		<dc:creator>paidtwice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a wee obsessive streak.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a wee obsessive streak.  <img src='http://www.paidtwice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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